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Katie's avatar

I'm actually kind of the opposite of you with Taylor Swift and John Mulaney! I like Taylor, although I wouldn't consider myself a Swiftie and I don't think TTPD is her best album. I think for someone at her level of fame, she is remarkably good at controlling the narrative of her life and relationships, through her lyrics and otherwise.

John Mulaney- I was a huge, HUGE fan of his, until that week came out where we heard, in swift succession, that he had a bunch of new shows, was getting divorced, and was dating Olivia Munn, with his ex, Anna Marie Tendler, eschewing the usual "we remain friends and wish each other the best" statement in favor of saying outright that she was devastated and the divorce wasn't her idea. And a few months later, we find out he apparently knocked up Olivia the second he got out of rehab. Since then, I can't watch his specials at all anymore, when they used to be what I watched whenever I had a bad day (especially during 2020, when I was stuck at home by myself). I haven't seen Baby J. All I can think now when I see John Mulaney is how badly he hurt Anna- and drugs are not an excuse for cheating. (Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt about when his relationship with Olivia started, there were a lot of rumors that he cheated with other women before her.) I also just...find addiction narratives incredibly boring. They're all the same and no one can really say anything new about it at this point.

Anyway- looking forward to Anna Marie Tendler's memoir that comes out this summer!

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Kelly's avatar

i personally enjoy music less when I know taylor-swift levels of intel on what went into making it. it destroys the personal experience, the generalizability of it for me. i don't try to "solve" songs like this - it feels like reading an essay interpreting a book, instead of just reading the book and drawing your own conclusions. if you are focusing on what happened to *the songwriter* when you listen to a song, you are cheating yourself out of a pure listening experience! listen to a song and find the moments and lyrics that most impact YOU! that's how art should work in my opinion! otherwise it's just homework!

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